“When I go into a hard conversation about identity, I have to be prepared to feel more unsettled than I was before, which I think is exactly why people do not like talking about identity.”

–Podcast host and author Anna Sale

Anna Sale, host of host of WNYC’s podcast Death, Sex & Money and author of Let’s Talk About Hard Things, chatted with NPR host Noel King about getting comfortable with uncomfortable topics. Sale suggests we not be afraid to broach tough subjects and that closure should not be our goal, but rather understanding.